For … Been playing since release and I've used them all and can pretty much tell you how you use them is how effective they're gonna be . With WA's DD and FB's R1 WA have the same range but DD alters the player to different positions while FB is the only katana that doesn't propel a character , meaning it's the only katana WA that keeps you stationary . Uchigatana, Black Blade & Chaos blade all have the same parry frames, frame 8.0 - 16.1 @60fps. Theres literally no reason for the bloodlust to exist. That's not a katana problem, that's a game problem. ... and the frayed blade is good, but you don't get the typical katana weapon arts which I personally like the regular one better. Uchigatana - can be buffed with resin and infused. Dark Drift - invisible running R1. Other katanas can get a much higher AR if used in conjunction with magic buffs. Basically they are all good for different situations. You can't buff it so no. If like a lot of katana players, you plan to use them to running attack, run away, and repeat that same process, the Washing Pole is your best friend. Frayed Blade is a Weapon in Dark Souls 3.It is part of The Ringed City.. A dragon weapon symbolizing Darkeater Midir. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Frayed Blade Onikiri and Ubadachi Uchigatana Washing Pole Reapers Friede's Great Scythe Great Corvian Scythe Great Scythe Pontiff Knight Great Scythe Arstor's Spear Dragonslayer Spear Dragonslayer Swordspear Drang Twinspears Follower Javelin Four-Pronged … Darkdrift is great for low stamina-builds. You can't infuse Chaos Blade.That said, I've using it since I got it, it's my favourite weapon by far. Chaos Blade all the way. Stat wise everything is sharp infused grade +10 at 18s/60d .... so let's begin . The once-exquisite blade is now stained black, and frayed at the hilt. But yeah, the Chaos Blade is unfortunately under average, but sometimes I use it for style points. In those pressuring situations, 1% damage per hit means next to nothing (as well as technically be only 1/8% of your total health pool because of estus), while the length is way more important for securing the final hit. Many Katanas have a weapon skill that allows them to Parry or perform a sweeping slash. I added Llyods sword ring. The best katana objectively is the washing pole, there is no argument you can make for any other katana coming close to its power. Frayed Blade has split damage with like 80 dark, but that's actually quite helpful most of the time I feel. Now, I love this thing in PVP. For the CB, this build. I'd still take the frayed blade over both of them just because the WA R1 can space easily from a neutral attack (which all katanas have issues with) and the WA R2 is nice bleed pressure for higher net damages. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, While you were out playing PvP, I studied the blade. I was really looking forward to it since it has nice damaga, a scalin in dexterity and additional dark damage. But same with everything else in the game. Add Leo ring and the AR is potentially greater then the frayed blade. Chaos blade: Really high AR, but self damage. I miss the Blacksteel Katana from DS2. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. My main build is a 75 DEX with WP and FB. It’s better than all the other katanas on its own, it’s better than all the other katanas when paired with a weapon like estoc. (The Ringed City) - … Washing pole still reaches miles, chaos blade has lots of damage, And Darkdrift! Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Title says it all. The uchi and chaos blade are work horses and will see you through anything. Kind of unrelated, but I think katanas aren't that good if you use them like you "should be" using them, which is 2-handing. When i made it to iron keep i was SL 32 with 22k souls on me, and i had Estus Flask +1, 2 doses the whole run. Damage isn't everything, katanas have unique moves, they can parry, they have a good running r1 for chasedowns, and they have an excellent weapon art. Depending on which katana you're using, each one is gonna have their own pros and cons . In duels, yes, it'll preform well just because it can pressure so easily. The Black Blade with it's inverted strong attacks gives it the best rolling attacks and because of this also has the best combos. For other uses, see Weapons (disambiguation). Someone mentioned in another comment here that it could be because people simply think it's cooler than the others. This shiny black blade is thick, but shorter than the typical katana. I pull out the washing pole when I need to beat someone with hyper armor whiffing out R1's, Frayed Blade is amazing to corner trap someone where you can constantly WA R2 their panic rolls against a wall etc etc, and the "normal" sized katanas are all decent all around just depends on your build which you want to use. Would 40 dex be enough for frayed blade? The light attack is a Nukiuchi attack, a wide swing that is excellent for hitting several enemies at once. WP has 55 Def while BB has 50 , WP and BB both have 38 stability . Only paired katana which also means it's the only one without any defensive measures , these are for pure damage baby. DD has the lowest AR(364) but can be buffed and ignores defense , also it has the only Thrust WA of all the Katanas . And it looks better lmao. The weapon art doesn't obliterate people with Carthus Rouge anymore, but it's still potent, and R1 combos into L1 for pretty high damage. Uchigatana, Black Blade & Chaos blade all have the same parry frames, frame 8.0 - 16.1 @60fps. Black Blade out-ARs the Uchi with a Refined Gem, also can be buffed and has the same WA. chevalierknight 4 years ago #6. It really all comes down to which move set you prefer, unless of course you decide to go for the Washing Pole. Washing pole actually has the longest parry window, 8.0 - 16.3 @60fps. I thought they buffed it? I do love my BB immensely especially on a fastroll build , 60 dex and human pine resin is no joke either . Nobody has a "for the Uchi, this build. Notes & Information. I like the Frayed Blade a bit better than the Chaos Blade. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. I get 492 AR on the WP unbuffed. Uchigatana; Washing Pole; Black Blade; Chaos Blade; Frayed Blade . The swordsman was a master of a rare technique, traces of which can be observed in this weapon's strong attack. Sadly, the Chaos Blade has less AR than the rest of my katanas. User Info: chevalierknight. And the WA is a great mixup for your moves. from someone who used a lot of the katanas for a long time I can say personally, Washing is long and can outspace a lot of weapons, so its the meta katana even if it does not combo 2 r1, Uchi can be buffed and even if the weapons art is not flashy, its really good the lunge is solid and have better tracking tan flayed blade WA, O&U can deal high damage with L1 with extra foward momentum + dangerous WA, also I'm messing with them with a int/dex build since with cristal they scale S on int and its nice to pierce shields, the others ones are not really worth it comparing to other katanas(unless for fashion and personal preference, black blade looks cool), Edit:forgot chaos blade, really good damage on dex build, the self damage is not really a big deal, but some times it adds up and can kill you, also longer than uchi and the stardard WA that I love. .. Main article: Weapon Types (Dark Souls III) Katanas are a weapon type in Dark Souls III. Those move cancellations were so good. Slice'em and dice'em . Frayed Blade is a really good weapon, but it does not make other katanas obselete.The chaos blade probably has more damage on a high dex build since the damage on the frayed blade is split. Head to Harvest Valley and save at the bonfire across the poison. This. You forgot to mention that the Washing Pole had it's ability to R1R1 combo taken away so that's a pretty big factor that sets it apart from other katanas now too. In invasions just don't use it as a main weapon. (And it's great for fashionsouls). How is bloodlust shit? It’s just overwhelms the competition. It's good for as a support weapon in one hand if I was using a spell like Gnaw to support a specific playstyle . The Frayed Blade really hits it's stride right at 40 dex. Close. This is a player-created Build for Dark Souls. I'm not a huge katana fan either, but I disagree. That's why the washing pole lacks an R1 combo now. Latency Poise, massive phantom range, burst damage, not animating. The Chaos Blade is a katana in Dark Souls III. I do MORE damage PER SWING with Anri's Straight Sword R1 at +5 than I do with the Uchi R1, AND I can get in multiple hits in with Anri compared to the 3 or 4 with the Uchi. The washing pole has far superior range. I have been invading with chaos blade a lot recently and it's great. Chaos Blade [DKS3 Wiki] Comments posted to our Dark Souls 3 Wiki 9 . #8. Onikiri and Ubadachi is still pretty solid. People just want to use the cool stuff. It further increases the DEX stacking, making your 40-50 dex give even more attack damage. The Uchi is the most balanced . I recently got this weapon after finally beating Midir. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Frayed Blade - any tips or is it not that good for PVE? The uchigatana has a couple valid ways of use. A: Washing Pole: Amazing all around EXCEPT no two hit guarantee. Washing pole actually has the longest parry window, 8.0 - 16.3 @60fps. Posted by 2 years ago. Black Blade - more powerful but shorter running R1. Without its sheath, it will soon crumble into nothing. User Info: LordSimmons. Uchi/412 , WP/420 , BB/430 . Frayed blade because of it's versatile moves and range option makes dealing with multiple people a lot easier and black blade for the pure AR to kill squishier phantoms quickly. Build Name: Chaos Blade Build; Build Level: 125; Build Focus: PvP; Build Main Stats: Vit/Dex; Link … Chaos Blade .... it's like uchi but better scaling and better bleed potential but can't be buffed ... it also hurts you . Been using Uchi Sharp, +10, with 40 Dex and about 30 in luck at the moment, STR is about 20 or so, can't remember. Most are capable of strong sweeping slash attacks as well as thrusts. Nope. Frayed Blade vs Chaos Blade Comparison - Dark Souls 3 QuantumMercury. With a dark infused black blade on a dedicated build I can take out phantoms really fast in invasions and sorta pseudo combo them like a straight sword with the rolling thrust. All I know is on my current playthrough I'm aiming for the Frayed. Found in the Untended Graves, uphill the left path before entering the remains of Firelink Shrine, on the same spot where the Sword Master was encountered in the Cemetery of Ash. Weapons That Have Hold. Press J to jump to the feed. Skill: Hold Assume a holding stance in which a normal attack sends a shockwave along the earth, and a strong attack commences a series of slashes. I have not seen any other katanas since the ringed city dropped. It doesn't even have any combos. Other blades like the uchigatana and the black blade can be buffed while the frayed blade cannot. Good rolling and running attacks but doesn't excel at either, The Washing Pole with its range dominates with running and stationary attacks. Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:26 am. I think Washing Pole and chaosblade shine in 1v1's, Frayed Blade and blackblade shine in invasions. Unlike sharp infused weapons (the Uchigatana, for instance) the Frayed Blade gains little damage from 40-99 dex (AR @ 40 dex = 454, AR @ 80 dex = 490). It'll have S scaling for dexterity when fully upgraded, so a few STR points for the requirement and full dexterity is very viable with it. So people told me in my previous frayed blade video that this thing is ridiculous on a bleed build so it's time to see if that's true. Yes, netcode makes them worse. Washing pole is still the best. Some say 40 Dex, 40 Str, 30-40 Luck. Onikiri and Ubadachi - well what can I really say about these as I can't really compare them to anything . The Uchigatana is a katana in Dark Souls. You can attack with darkdrift for days without ever having to worry about your stamina. When comparing damage and the perks each one has it's like night and day . Frayed Blade PvP On A BLEED & DEX Build...Is It Better? Lot of telegraphing though. Uchigatana - Most balanced running R1. So many weapons outclass and outdamage the Katanas and I simply can't find a build that makes them work. Special effect of the weapon is that it slightly damages you too with every hit. Most other katanas share the same WA and moveset, with the exception of bloodlust( which is apparently shit now). Frayed blade because of it's versatile moves and range option makes dealing with multiple people a lot easier and black blade for the pure AR to kill squishier phantoms quickly. Respectively all have no more then 18 AR difference from each other . Chaos Blade - running R1's make you kill yourself. They're a dex weapon of course, but even at 60 Dex I wasn't doing as much damage as Anri's SS. The Black Blade and Uchigatana are the best until you find Onikiri and Ubadachi. Archived. Bloodlust - See chaos blade, but 10x worse Some say 40 Dex, 30 Str. The main issue is it's heavy. Frayed Blade is a really good weapon, but it does not make other katanas obselete.The chaos blade probably has more damage on a high dex build since the damage on the frayed blade is split. They have a much better 1-handed moveset with R1's that come out slightly faster and slightly longer. I agree with you there but I still haven't seen anyone use it since the dlc. The game frontloads a lot of lighter dex weapons so you have to hang in there if you want, say, a GS that scales well with dex. They both have the best defensiveness of all the katanas, Next let's compare 2 katanas that I find both fundamentally opposite from each other . Hold is a Skill in Dark Souls 3.. They are all good, and may the person who said a +15 Washing Pole is crap encounter me some times. For comparison, Caetus is 8.1 - 16.3, however it has an extra 2 frame recovery time (30 vs 28.1) and the katanas get a damage absorption bonus while using the parry, making them a little safer to use Uchigatana is an obvious early-game choice. So lets start with the 3 basic Katanas .... Uchigatana , Washing Pole and Black Blade . I can never really bring myself to use weapons that I see super commonly in the meta so I haven't tried it out myself yet but I still don't see a reason to pick any of the katanas over it. Onikiri does a lot of damage and has an R1 L1 true combo along with the L2 L1, and the L2 is pretty situational now that they nerfed it (imo they overnerfed it but it was pretty dumb before). That range and speed being enchantable is lethal, and it has only about 30 AR less than an Uchigatana. Eh, in duels maybe. Weapon Art is parrying as for any Katana except Bloodlust. The AR on FB(469) is top notch on it's own but can't be buffed and requires successive hits to proc bleed . With a dark infused black blade on a dedicated build I can take out phantoms really fast in invasions and sorta pseudo combo them like a straight sword with the rolling thrust. It's not that they have the "second R1" guaranteed roll catch like the two mentioned, in fact their R1s are some of the worst in the game, as a mediocrely ranged poiseless Greatsword swing, but their running R1 is so brutally fast, not necessarily lag abusing such as some weapon arts. So I wanna share my take on all the katanas from personally experience . 40-50 dex is usually where you wanna head with it. As of 1.81 weapons no longer bounce off walls. Katanas are characterized by their quick slashing and thrusting dashing attacks. Agreed , Forgot about the washing pole though thanks !! List of Equipment with Special Effects Secondly get a Sharp stone, and make it a SHARP uchigatana. Check out my official Merch Store! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I prefer chaos blade over uchi on a pure Dex build as it gets more AR and the self damage is negated with blessed caestus and sun ring. Punishes rolling back also. Battle Tested. I would miss the weapon buffs tho, 40 is the minimum , I'd recommend 60 though or reallocate those Fth stats into luck for the quicker bleed proc. It's non-buffable, doesnt have substantially better bleed than any other katana, is as short as the black blade, and does less damage than a max chaos or uchi for a dex build, or a max black blade for a quality build. At 60dex the Chaos is better, and at 70dex the black blade is 1AR higher. It's the only katana with a rolling thrust attack . Onikri and Ubadachi: Deals good damage if you land the L1s and the WA has hyperarmor. I'd say the S scaling is its redeeming quality but that went away when TRC and Frayed Blade came into the fold . 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